Behind the "Imposter" Label: Unmasking the Systemic Roots of Self-Doubt
Unmasking the "Imposter": Why Self-Doubt Isn't Your Fault, It's the System's
Forget "syndrome," psychologist Leila Ainge is calling imposter feelings what they truly are: a pervasive phenomenon fueled by the digital age. Leila's groundbreaking research, featuring interviews with successful entrepreneurs, reveals the surprising culprits behind your self-doubt – online comparisons, relentless competition, and the pressure of constant visibility.
Dive deep with Leila, as she empowers you to recognize these external forces for what they are: the fuel for your inner critic. This insightful opening episode of Psychologically Speaking is a breath of fresh air for anyone who's ever been crippled by self-doubt. Join Leila as she reframes the narrative and rewrites the rulebook on conquering the "imposter" within.
Connect with Leila online at www.leilaainge.co.uk and subscribe to her newsletter for psychological insights direct to your inbox.
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Transcript
Welcome to psychologically speaking with me,
Leila Ainge:Leila Ainge This is a podcast
Leila Ainge:all about human behaviour, weaving
Leila Ainge:together fascinating research, opinions, and real
Leila Ainge:life experiences. I'll give you a psychologist's
Leila Ainge:insight into how we behave in spaces we live
Leila Ainge:and work in, and how they in turn, shape
Leila Ainge:us. You this season, we're exploring
Leila Ainge:my favorite topic, impostor phenomenon.
Leila Ainge:So get comfy and let's dive into today's
Leila Ainge:episode.
Leila Ainge:Welcome to the first episode in this
Leila Ainge:series of psychologically speaking, where we'll
Leila Ainge:take a look at the impostor phenomenon backstory
Leila Ainge:and the narratives around one of the most talked about
Leila Ainge:experiences in business.
Leila Ainge:Impostor phenomenon is characterized
Leila Ainge:as self doubt, attributing success to luck,
Leila Ainge:and a fear of failure or being found
Leila Ainge:out. In almost every
Leila Ainge:article you'll read about Impostor, the story
Leila Ainge:you're being told is one where you need to overcome
Leila Ainge:impostor syndrome. It's a narrative
Leila Ainge:that I became increasingly uncomfortable with.
Leila Ainge:What I was noticing with my own clients
Leila Ainge:were the experiences and spaces that heightened
Leila Ainge:self doubt or feeling lucky, and that risk of
Leila Ainge:exposure more than others. I was
Leila Ainge:curious about the syndrome narrative.
Leila Ainge:Does it accurately describe the experience
Leila Ainge:of impostor? Curiously,
Leila Ainge:for one of the most talked about experiences in business,
Leila Ainge:there was very little research on the way
Leila Ainge:entrepreneurs and people who own their own
Leila Ainge:businesses experienced impostor
Leila Ainge:feelings. Throughout this series, I'm
Leila Ainge:going to use the phrase phenomenon, and I'll be talking about
Leila Ainge:impostor experiences and feelings.
Leila Ainge:What we call the experience is
Leila Ainge:important. A syndrome and a phenomenon are
Leila Ainge:two very different things. A syndrome
Leila Ainge:indicates that there's something wrong. It's a set of
Leila Ainge:signs or symptoms. And usually a
Leila Ainge:syndrome is something that we try to fix with either
Leila Ainge:medication or therapy.
Leila Ainge:Importantly, though, a syndrome suggests that
Leila Ainge:the issue lies with the individual.
Leila Ainge:My research really challenges that thinking.
Leila Ainge:And to be clear, medically,
Leila Ainge:impostor syndrome does not exist. So
Leila Ainge:why is everyone calling it that syndrome?
Leila Ainge:is admittedly easier to say than phenomenon.
Leila Ainge:But to understand why impostor is more commonly thought of as
Leila Ainge:a syndrome, we'd need to take a look at how it's been
Leila Ainge:researched in the past.
Leila Ainge:Impostor phenomenon started with a series of clinical
Leila Ainge:observations. Back in 1979,
Leila Ainge:two psychologists, Pauline Clance and Suzanne
Leila Ainge:Ives, were seeing women in their clinics who were
Leila Ainge:intellectually at the top of their game, high achievers.
Leila Ainge:These women were worried about failing, getting caught
Leila Ainge:out. They felt lucky rather than being
Leila Ainge:talented. They used the word
Leila Ainge:phenomenon to describe the enigma of these
Leila Ainge:experiences being associated with successful
Leila Ainge:women, these three broad
Leila Ainge:feelings became associated with the impostor
Leila Ainge:phenomenon. Through clansonime's work. In
Leila Ainge:fact, a recent review of all of the studies that have
Leila Ainge:happened since 1979, these
Leila Ainge:are still the three key areas that we associate
Leila Ainge:with impostor. The narrative
Leila Ainge:hasn't changed much in 46 years,
Leila Ainge:and I want you to consider one reason for that.
Leila Ainge:The way in which we think of and measure the
Leila Ainge:impostor experience has been pretty consistent for
Leila Ainge:that time, too.
Leila Ainge:The idea that these feelings
Leila Ainge:belonged to the women in their minds,
Leila Ainge:rather than being a consequence of
Leila Ainge:the situational context, is interesting to
Leila Ainge:me, and I think it helps to explain why
Leila Ainge:syndrome seems to fit the phenomenon. We
Leila Ainge:should also consider that despite the term phenomenon being
Leila Ainge:used in the original study, the narratives of
Leila Ainge:that decade most likely influenced
Leila Ainge:interpretation. So earlier in the
Leila Ainge:1970s, the term fear of success
Leila Ainge:had been coined by Martina Horner.
Leila Ainge:Martina, also a psychologist, had set an
Leila Ainge:exercise for men and women, and, she'd had them finish
Leila Ainge:writing a story queue about being successful in a
Leila Ainge:medical setting. Now, remember, back in the
Leila Ainge:1970s, not many women made it
Leila Ainge:into the top of medical professions.
Leila Ainge:A key difference between the men and women in that
Leila Ainge:study were the ways in which negative imagery was
Leila Ainge:used more by women. When writing about the
Leila Ainge:success of a woman, Martina
Leila Ainge:concluded that women had what she thought of
Leila Ainge:as a trade off mindset. When it came to
Leila Ainge:success, the success was synonymous for
Leila Ainge:women with making big life changes and sacrifices.
Leila Ainge:Of course, these narratives and negative
Leila Ainge:stories still exist. Women are unfairly
Leila Ainge:judged on balancing careers and family life in
Leila Ainge:comparison to men. Thinking about the
Leila Ainge:cultural tone that existed when the original research took
Leila Ainge:place is useful, though, because it helped me to
Leila Ainge:think about posing different questions to understand the
Leila Ainge:impostor experience.
Leila Ainge:So how do we measure an,
Leila Ainge:enigma? Typically, impostor
Leila Ainge:phenomenon is measured through a diagnostic
Leila Ainge:questionnaire. The Clantz impostor scale
Leila Ainge:is just one example. And one of their
Leila Ainge:statements says, sometimes I'm afraid others
Leila Ainge:will discover how much knowledge or ability I really
Leila Ainge:lack, and there'll be a rating with that
Leila Ainge:statement. So that's something you always experience
Leila Ainge:or rarely experience. But what
Leila Ainge:does sometimes or rarely mean? And, which
Leila Ainge:situations? What's the context?
Leila Ainge:I want to know when they felt that
Leila Ainge:way, were they writing a report? Were they sat in a
Leila Ainge:boardroom? Or were they doing their thing on
Leila Ainge:Instagram live? Because these situations,
Leila Ainge:they are so different. I think another
Leila Ainge:problem with diagnostics is that, trying to determine
Leila Ainge:how much of a problem that person has,
Leila Ainge:it's what's wrong with them. It puts the emphasis back
Leila Ainge:on that individual rather than the situations they are
Leila Ainge:experiencing. I'd like you to
Leila Ainge:consider, that impostor feels more at home
Leila Ainge:alongside the word phenomenon than it does
Leila Ainge:syndrome. There's a lot about
Leila Ainge:impostor that's still unexplained, and
Leila Ainge:largely because we've not been asking the right questions.
Leila Ainge:This is what motivated me to talk to the
Leila Ainge:entrepreneurial community, because here you've got
Leila Ainge:a group of people who are putting themselves out there and
Leila Ainge:taking huge, big risks. Running
Leila Ainge:a business is not easy.
Leila Ainge:So how do entrepreneurs experience impostor
Leila Ainge:phenomenon? Surely they need to be the
Leila Ainge:opposite of somebody who's got self doubt or fear of
Leila Ainge:exposure and thinks that they're just lucky.
Leila Ainge:Shouldn't entrepreneurs be really self assured and
Leila Ainge:confident, ready to put themselves into really
Leila Ainge:awkward situations and reframe negative
Leila Ainge:thoughts? This is what those self help
Leila Ainge:articles in magazines are telling us we need to
Leila Ainge:do. The types of things these articles
Leila Ainge:tell you and me to do are, name the feelings, get
Leila Ainge:feedback, and talk about your feelings with a coach or
Leila Ainge:psychologist. But what
Leila Ainge:if you are, not the problem?
Leila Ainge:Will these tools help you to get ahead then?
Leila Ainge:It was such an interesting opposite for
Leila Ainge:me to think about entrepreneurs as a group,
Leila Ainge:and it felt really obvious to say, tell me
Leila Ainge:about your impostor feelings. Tell me about when you're
Leila Ainge:experiencing this and, under what
Leila Ainge:situations. I didn't want to use
Leila Ainge:existing questionnaires. I didn't want to go around
Leila Ainge:pseudo diagnosing people. I
Leila Ainge:wanted to understand their experiences and say, what do
Leila Ainge:you think? How are you making sense of this?
Leila Ainge:Historically, men and women have not wanted to speak about
Leila Ainge:impostor feelings with peers because it feeds the fear of
Leila Ainge:being found out. It's a key barrier for overcoming
Leila Ainge:feelings. When the pandemic happened, we were
Leila Ainge:all suddenly thrust into online ways of working,
Leila Ainge:and I was starting to observe the ways entrepreneurs
Leila Ainge:in some online communities were creating spaces
Leila Ainge:where it was safe to say, I've got self
Leila Ainge:doubt. I'm really worried about putting myself out
Leila Ainge:there. I don't want to be visible. The
Leila Ainge:contrast with putting forward positive self image in
Leila Ainge:other online spaces reinforced my
Leila Ainge:idea into researching how
Leila Ainge:entrepreneurs navigate online spaces
Leila Ainge:and, impostor feelings.
Leila Ainge:Here's what I found. Entrepreneurs
Leila Ainge:experience impostor phenomenon in
Leila Ainge:unique ways, moving beyond a fear of
Leila Ainge:failure, feeling like a fraud, and waiting to be found
Leila Ainge:out. The women who shared their experiences
Leila Ainge:with me talked about visibility,
Leila Ainge:especially where there are intersections around race
Leila Ainge:and neurodiversity, how, they cope
Leila Ainge:successfully with comparison using
Leila Ainge:whatever tools social platforms provide,
Leila Ainge:and curiously, how that comparison is so
Leila Ainge:often inward looking. In fact, one of
Leila Ainge:the phrases that stuck with me from the moment I
Leila Ainge:heard it was, a woman who said, I miss her.
Leila Ainge:I miss me. And, finally, they spoke
Leila Ainge:candidly about competition
Leila Ainge:in their own words. Visibility,
Leila Ainge:comparison, and competition are at the heart of
Leila Ainge:impostor feelings and experiences. We'll
Leila Ainge:explore what this means and how it relates to women
Leila Ainge:who are getting ahead and getting things done,
Leila Ainge:because the women I spoke to had been successfully
Leila Ainge:running businesses for an average of seven
Leila Ainge:years, some of them more than 15.
Leila Ainge:This is why that narrative of something being wrong with the
Leila Ainge:individual didn't feel right to me.
Leila Ainge:These women are getting ahead. Despite experiencing
Leila Ainge:impostor phenomenon, they've adapted and
Leila Ainge:created ways of coping in a space that is
Leila Ainge:often psychologically unsafe and
Leila Ainge:competitive.
Leila Ainge:Today, we've looked at the impostor
Leila Ainge:backstory, the way in which success was
Leila Ainge:feared by women in the 1970s,
Leila Ainge:and the current narratives that focus on
Leila Ainge:overcoming a syndrome, which, of course, puts the
Leila Ainge:emphasis back on the individual. I've
Leila Ainge:asked you to consider ditching the word syndrome
Leila Ainge:in favor of impostor phenomenon. It's
Leila Ainge:a phrase which nicely guides us to a place where we
Leila Ainge:consider there's more to impostor than
Leila Ainge:overcoming our fears.
Leila Ainge:In the next episode, I'll be introducing.
Leila Ainge:You to a psychological term called context collapse,
Leila Ainge:how it helps us to explain behavior in online
Leila Ainge:spaces and why it then relates to
Leila Ainge:impostor. M.
Leila Ainge:That's it for today. I hope you learned something
Leila Ainge:new, or perhaps I've given you a new way to think about
Leila Ainge:what you experience. A quick reminder
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